38. You are NO THING – Randall Friend – Part 1
An interview with Randall about his new book “You are NO Thing”. It’s about moving from worldly knowledge to self-knowledge.
The book is now published – by Non Duality Press. The ‘Bob’ that Randall mentions is of course Bob Adamson. Bob appears in previous programs here on the UGC.
Randall’s website is called “You Are Dreaming”
Music includes pieces by Gerardo Nunez, Crash Test Dummies, Andreas Vollenweider, Creedence Clearwater Revival and Van Morrison.
Short voice extracts from The Matrix movie at the head and tail of the program.
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Randall will be answering any genuine questions from listeners to this program.
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Thank you Randall, Gilbert and Areti for another hit.
You certainly bring a “sense” of balance to this program and your delivery of the same and Only message on offer here, is very digestible, to say the least.
We are Very fortunate, indeed to have This so clearly delivered.
Maybe This Time, ‘I’ won’t be here to receive it> lol
ThanQ Anywho~
Mark
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I am no thing, therefore, anything that I can conceptualize or think cannot be who I am. Seeing is happening, in fact, seeing is all there is. Earnestness fuels a runaway train of illusions that crashes into a brick wall, the inherent limits of duality. The annihilation of conceptual pseudo-reality makes it obvious that seeing is all there is, this is it. The certainty of this knowing/seeing is effortlessly and ceaselessly self-evident. Where am I seeing from? Now.
Nice interview!
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It is certainly Not from lack of information, Rodger, that This seems to be ‘missed’.
What you just said was razor sharp and “Understood”, perfectly.
The mind’s last resort is to “understand” this.
It feels as if the habit of belief is a bit more ingrained in the body and patterns are repeated , mostly going unnoticed by the mind.
The “noticer”, whoever that is ( I AM ) peeks out once in awhile, kinda moves to the foreground, per sey,,, OR it is realized, somehow that “Something” was and is catching Everything…..At ONCE~~~~~~ yea, words.
Man, it can’t get any clearer that here at the UGC, this I know, having perused Vast ammts. of squiggly lines and videos.
I read a lot slower now after catching myself devouring this like a beast, trying to get to the next….. ????? Don’t know if anything is happening , but there is a real sense of ease around some pretty intense ’story’ that is ’seeming’ to go down here in markville,,,, and maybe the “Ease” is a story as well.
Randall~~~ Exquisite, My Friend~ (3rd time through this podcast)
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Thank you Randall!
The subtitle of this podcast might very well be: LOST IN TRANSLATION!!
(Thought you might like that one, Gilbert!)
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Randall is all ways clear
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Simply by ‘hearing’ your own voice, while speaking is happening, can reveal that everything appears out of emptiness. There is no one there to be lost or to be found in what the mind translates with words and images.
Everything ‘appears’ in the seeing.
No one can go beyond the seeing.
There is no behind the ’scene’.
Even so, if you have a question, Randall will surely answer it in a clear and precise way.
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Everything that is perceivable can be translated.(that which is transitory in nature)
That which cannot be translated is that which cannot be perceived or conceived.
Where are you ‘Seeing From’? ~ to coin a phrase from G.
Thanks, Randall, Areti and Gilbert for this wonderful podcast!
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Yes…a great podcast! Good job all round.
Randall’s words on the subject of time are a ‘mind stopper’!
The mind swings from past thoughts and future anticipations like a pendulum, creating time and space…not appearing to ’stop’ in the midpoint for a quick evaluation of the presence awareness.
Yet even in the swinging, mid point or not, there is only immediate and immaculate seeing.
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The instrument through which awareness appears to happen is NOT separate from the awareness, or the cognition.
Bam~!
http://seeing-knowing.com/
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‘Look’ at any object…’look’ at your body…’look’ at your thoughts and concepts…
Everything ‘appears’ in the seeing…in the invincible, unquantifiable and immaculate awareness.
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That’s better. Thanks Gilbert and Areti for your editing, and another entertaining and informative podcast. Nice and clear Randall – great message.
Great to hear a bit more from Van Morrison too.
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Hi Robin:
I’ll answer you on this page since it’s the most recent and also pertains to the new Randall post. My suggestion is that you stick with the “chain-of-command” for now. Please contact Gilbert with questions or the current posted teacher; which at this time is Randall. Also, I don’t know what the bleep Gilbert is talking about some using fake email addresses–he has contacted me at the address provided and my paypal for donations is always linked to that same email address.
The outer guru is just a “millstone”. Yes, I said millstone and not milestone. Anyone on here already has enough pointers to complete an investigation toward the positive confirmation of what they are (on their own). Problem is, few want this. They still want experiences, states, or “their life” to be arranged a certain way due to this sharing. When everything is an appearance in your true nature, which one of those appearances says anything about you? Which one of those appearances needs to be a certain way for you to be what you are? I tell you, there are folks who claim to get this stuff but then habitually continue to seek spiritual experiences and a cushy life wrapped in a ribbon.
I may be delirious because I just travelled across the pond (Pacific Ocean) and have a recent fever, but I listened to this MP3 by Randall and did not enjoy it as much as his earlier stuff–Oneness of Consciousness. He said something about we think we’re close and then we still feel pride in giving to others or anger in other situations which could be a clear guidepost that the story hasn’t been seen through. That was a very convoluted passage in the MP3 in my opinion. Who the heck is seeking a certain state or a certain attitude that confirms the knowing? The knowing is ever fresh and never distant from your true nature in any way. It’s not the body or the manifested behavior that is the problem (or that betrays your “status” as “getting this”); it’s the identification with those things or attributes as being who You Are (or a “barometer” of what you are) that is troublesome.
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Hi Kimo,
I appreciate your response…In the appearance, “people” appear to resonate with different expressions of THIS. I resonate loudly with the expressions of Kimo.
(Gilbert mentions this quite a bit…whatever it takes is valid.)
“Anyone on here already has enough pointers to complete an investigation of what they are…(on their own)” Agreed. (Still would like to e-mail you.)
Gilbert,
I know this isn’t a social club…and that you really want to keep this site free of extraneous bullshit…just wasn’t sure how to go about contacting anyone from the site who doesn’t already have a website.
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Robin,
You could join the Facebook UGC group. There’s not much discussion happening there but it’s more relaxed.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=132102535246
Mike
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As I mentioned up front: Randall will answer anyone with a genuine question.
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‘Who’ gets upset? About what?
My comment about ’some use false email addresses’ is correct. My comment was not aimed at anyone in particular. In fact a good majority of the comments come with a false email address attached. So if some want to contact others through this comment page, it can only happen if the addresses are genuine. My comment was more directed at the gloomy comment makers, the ‘negative’ sour grape eaters. They are never using their correct address. I know because attempts to contact them always fail.
Some hide because they I know that I know them. I can ‘hear’ their voice quite often as I read the comments. That will spook them for sure.
Whatever disturbance happens, it will pass. The nature of all appearances is to disappear.
Follow the disappearance trail. and……..Don’t stand under a tree in an electrical storm.
As I say quite often: There is no point in pretending to understand non duality. That ‘mind set’ is fragile and can be disturbed as easily as a flock of Flamingos.
There is an old Zen Story (since you love stories) that goes like this.
A Samurai warrior goes to his Zen Master and arrogantly says “Prove to me that Heaven and Hell exist”.
The master replies “You, you sniveling idiot, even if I laid them out in front of you, you would not see them. You half baked biscuit”.
The Samurai swelled up with extreme resentment and removed his razor sharp sword, intending, no doubt, to take off the head of the master without further ado.
As the sword was raised for the fatal blow the master quietly said: “Now the gates of Hell are opening”.
The Samurai fell to his knees as a revelation hit him.
“Now the gates of heaven are opening” whispered the master.
Whatever it take to bring about the recognition is valid. Pretending to be ‘the knower’ is useless. Parading as ‘the knower’ is obscene.
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The pure immediacy of this “moment” is untouched by anything that appears in thought. Can you find anything outside of THIS, right here and now? Get up, walk across the room, get in a car, a bus, a plane… go anywhere and it’s always THIS, always here and now.
The subjectivity-”I” never goes anywhere. The appearance changes and these changes are attributed to distance and duration, space and time. Yet SEE that this immediate presence of “I AM”-ness never moves – it’s like a container in which the changes arise and subside.
YOU have been there, have been the constant, through a lifetime of changing experiences. You ARE – THIS – this “moment”, this immediacy, and there is nothing OUTSIDE OF YOU.
You are certain of your existence – this doesn’t need to be found through seeking. It doesn’t require a concept, it doesn’t require the mind to know. It is Self-evident. And you are certain of your existence because this Self-evidence is always the most intimate aspect of any experience.
This is conceptualized as “I am here, inside the world, separate from the world”. Then that “I AM”-ness is seen to be moving in relation to the world. Yet that “I AM”-ness NEVER moves. Only appearances move/change. When identified with the changing appearance (body-mind, thought, situation, relationship, job, whatever) – then peace is always fleeting, always dependent on the permanence of that which is inherently impermanent. Therefore seeking peace in this way is futile. It is in seeing that what you are CANNOT CHANGE – has no attributes by which to measure change – that peace is found to be already present and unshakable.
Anything that appears cannot have it’s own independent existence apart from this rock-solid presence that you are. YOU are the changeless ground of all experience – yet we look TO experience to bring peace, to bring happiness, to bring enlightenment.
The enlightenment being sought after is always present and unavoidable, yet overlooked due to seeking after it.
love
randall
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There is a ‘big’ conference on no duality coming up. Many will get excited about it. A massive amount of money will change hands. ‘Experts’ will put forward their concepts and video displays. Conversations around this ‘event’ will perpetuate for ’some time’.
It will come and go. It is ALL in the appearance. Nothing will be gained and nothing will be lost.
Non Duality does not change.
The recognition that is necessary will ALWAYS come unexpectedly.
It won’t come ‘because’ you attend a conference or because you squeeze your mind into a particular shape to suit someone else’s precepts.
The recognition ‘happens’ because you ALREADY KNOW.
The cognition is already happening.
All the phenomenal appearance cannot alter the ‘knowing’.
There is nothing more intimate and nothing more Cosmic than the recognition of your own true nature. You do not have to take one step in any direction away from what you are right NOW.
All the song and dance is merely entertainment. See it as it is and there will be no problem.
A good and sturdy sign post stands firm and points accurately.
It has no decorations or flags blowing in the wind to assist its ‘function’.
It merely ‘points’. That is IT.
The sign post that dances all over the place is ‘pointing’ all over the place and cannot be trusted. It always points ‘away’ from your true essence.
The crux of it all is: Nothing in the appearance can GIVE anything to anything else in the appearance. A reflection in the mirror cannot touch or influence another reflection in the mirror. It is One Mirror and all reflections are One reflection – not IN the mirror – they are OF the mirror.
What you are looking at is the mirror like nature of ‘your own mind’, except there is no ‘you’ to it…..so there is no ‘your own mind’ as such.
What is deemed to be the most profane activity and the most sacred or mysterious activity is all equal – equal as the appearance.
Where the impressions register, of anything at all, is where one must investigate, to find one’s own true nature – the only ‘journey worth taking’ – the journey of ’self-discovery’. Which IS the ‘no self’ – discovery
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Susana is seen to be the object.
The seeking is seen to be in mind, whose very job is to continue seeking – so absolutely no thought, no matter how profound can be the truth.
Thoughts continue to arise with polite frequency but they glide or slide away quickly due to a lack of resonance with them.
No contraction occurs and indeed peace is prevalent.
It has been mentioned that one is seeing from one’s true nature.
So what a blessing when one finds oneself questioning – to find these words as a sword which cuts the involvement and returns one to what is, as it is.
Just want to thank Gilbert and Randall for killing me softly with their words and songs.
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To imply that there is a ‘you’ that can ‘let go’ and then ‘be here’ is an erroneous concept.
The so-called ‘realizing’ that ‘I am here’ is the mind translating the obvious.
There is only HERE, NOW. There is no other time or place. To postulate otherwise is only conceptualization, appearing now.
The Obvious Reality does not need the mind’s translation. There is no one that gets liberated. The concept of liberation is a static concept, which seemingly has meaning because ’someone’ who is just another thought, attaches itself to the concept of liberation or of bondage. The so-called ‘teacher’ who proliferates such concepts is caught in his own concepts and walks in small circles with his followers chanting ‘I am liberated’.
It is all deluded ‘mind stuff’. No matter how ‘nice and spiritual’ it appears to be.
Although these teachers have been ‘called on’ for teaching erroneous concepts about deliverance and learning to embody the teaching, they have altered their teaching by adding escape clauses. They still obviously believe that they can impart something special to their devotees. It is all nonsense. An appearance cannot impart one electron to another appearance.
The Singular Essence of One does not need any activity from the appearance.
It all appears OUT of the One Essence.
No appearance EVER makes in back into the Singular Essence. It all appears as disappears in One Instant.
In the appearance of things ‘Gilbert’ plays the role of being ‘the bait on the hook’, dangling in the foreground, to entice the hiding ‘ego’ out where it can be seen. So many ‘fish’ take the bait. And a few get a glimpse of the ‘ego game’ that plays itself out, as a pretense of what they are. Once seen clearly it abates and slides away. The bait will continue to appear until the fish stop biting. Such is the drama of life. If I could be shaken by some pathetic grumbling noises, made by an insecure ‘me’ somewhere, I would have given this away a long time ago. It isn’t a ME doing any of it – on either side of the River.
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Gilbert,
you should make a biz with your supra powers;so write books about the third eye and the voices in “your” head!
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Lev, what is your problem? We all get your message. We’ve let you say it once, say it twice, and your tune hasn’t changed. You are welcome to put up your insights about Gibert’s miss-message, if that’s what you think it is. Talk about the message, that’s what we’re here to do, not the messenger, but at least say something intelligent and worthy of a read. Snide remarks serve no purpose. It’s insights that count. And if you think you have had an insight into ‘Gilbert’s true nature’, you only need say it once. Any more posts along your usual line will be deleted by me.
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Kimo, you should have another good listen to Randall’s message. He says that we misunderstand our true nature to be that ‘niggling sense of pride’ when we are ‘compassionate’ or are giving something for free. And he points to us and says that is not our true nature, look and see to what I point. It is already here, it is already now, it is just lost in translation, as someone before me suggested. I would say it is the second best pointing we have got from Randall. The best is to come. Stay tuned all.
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The mirror like nature of the mind.
Awareness is not disguised as anything.
Awareness IS everything.
Obviously some comments by me have touched a sensitive spot for ’someone’.
It is only a ‘me’ that can be angry or offended. The suffering will continue its natural course until this ‘me’ is revealed for what it is. This is not a personal message – it applies to all who believe that they are a ‘person’. The friction won’t just disappear by itself.
In this case, I will make a suggestion. Tell us who you really are ‘Lev’, tell us your ’story’. What is this anger really about?
I am sure many would love to read what lies behind these consistent attacks.
It seems to be more personal than comments on a website. Sharing the caustic substance may give cause for some relief. I am serious.
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Stop your silly projections! I say you are spiritual ego masquering as awareness!sure you want to be right,I know…the difference between me and you is that I don’t PRETEND anything…I have nothing to defend! but I can’t stand the arrogance in many ways…arrogance is the pest! I know you will have the last word,because you are like all these preachers that want to save their bible!
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Stay with your sacred pointers! don’t waste your time about stories! stay with what you know!
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I want to rant and rave about my life, about the emotional turmoil I find myself in. I want things to be different. I hurt and I want those around me to feel my pain. I’m a selfish little so and so that makes my whole world angry with my pokes and jibes. I want to turn my back on all this but I still carry anger with me. I want to be not me, not this nonsense. I want it gone! I want to destroy everything but can’t do a thing.
I love this world, the wonder of life in all its diversity. The sun shinning, the blue skys, the majesty of a thunder storm and the radience of a rainbow. The compassion for my fellow man, the shared joy of a smile and a handshake or a hug. I want to love this forever but can’t do a thing.
From one extreme to the other bobbing on the waves of opposites I grow tired of it all.
Is there a way out of this? Is Randall still buffeted by the crests and troughs of life? Even if the ‘me’ falls away do the waves stop? Or is there just no more concern for the pleasantries and hardships of life?
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A friend once told me “Never to argue with a fool. First they bring you down to their level and then they beat you on experience”.
So, keep hiding behind your ‘Not pretending’ but I can assure you that what you express is clearly obvious to anyone with an once of intelligence.
Arrogance seems to be your specialty, so it seems. Bye Lev. Enough of these mind games. The message is impersonal but it seems you miss that point.
Listen to the program. These comment pages are for focusing on the ‘topic’ of the program, not ‘Gilbert’. Pity your bravery can’t allow you to reveal ‘who’ you are.
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I tried to send this to you Lev, but the email bounced back (false email address). So here goes, for another attempt at some reconciliation:
Lev, what exactly has Gilbert or anyone for that matter done to make you think there is arrogance involved? Is it that you think his words are incorrect? Is it some thing else he wrote that pissed you off? I am just curious? Is it the digs he has at some – what digs exactly if so? If you want to say that you think that Gilbert is just as bad as all the other gurus or that you are clear and he is not, then say that. And point out exactly what it is that has made you think what you think. At least present examples of what he is doing that makes you think so. Otherwise, you just come across as some irate guy (? girl) who has nothing better to do with his time. Are you trying to warn the rest of the people on the site about something. Why not go where the air smells clear if you don’t like it here?
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Areti,
simply look at how Gilbert insult people all the time…you may hear what I mean!his comments speak for themselves!
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So, do you think that because he is insulting, he can’t possibly be clear with this stuff? Is that what you are saying? Do you think that someone must act a particular way when they are ‘clear’ (even though I understand that you understand that what we all agree with is that we already are clear)? It’s fair enough if that is what you think, let’s see if people agree with you about how one behaves when one is enlightened?
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So, like a fan dancer, nothing is revealed as the fans sway back and forth. As I have pointed out a hundred times, whatever it takes to bring about the recognition of one’s true nature is valid. There is only one ‘thing’ that you can trust – the fact of your own being.
In staying totally with that fact, with an open mind, everything reveals itself.
I do not play the game of being sacred and above anyone. There is no ‘I’ doing anything.
In the appearance there is a ’stirring up’ going on. The lovey dovey spiritual nonsense does not work. Rousting out the belief in the ‘me’ is effective. Many have had glimpses of the spiritual mind game that they have been playing for decades. Some have opened up into an ease of being with what is. These ‘examples’ were not concerned about ‘others’ or whether Gilbert insults any ‘person’ or not. So, Lev, if you cannot reply clearly to Areti’s questions about the details of what has pissed you off, how can this thing be resolved?
Have the courage of your convictions or be quiet.
My advice to ‘you’ is this: Get out and meet people, enjoy life and stop worrying about ‘others’. Tap into the livingness that you are.
Now can we please get back on track. Has anyone got some genuine questions for Randall?
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Areti,
no one is enlightened,that’s the whole point!
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