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Yes – everything is not one but one is everything. a subtle pointer indeed.
Editor: Isn’t it so obvious. Yet few recognize the infinite field of resonance that potentially rests in every thing. Once one opens to it, nothing can close it.

- Timothy Freke

Hey Don Cornelius – I am in the music biz and played and worked for many of the artists on your tv show. Good to see you here. Met you a long time ago at a rehearsal.

Now on to my questions.

Thoughts do arise and fall in who we really are- awareness. We are not the thinker of the thoughts, we are outside the thoughts as the seer. So if that is so which it is how is it that the thoughts that arise in my awareness are not as sharp and intelligent and wise as someone else’s ? For example I didn’t do as well as my brother in school or college. He has great ability and concentration when it comes to studies. I really had to work at getting a high grade and have a terrible memory as for my brother- he breezed through school getting A’s. Is it all conditioning ? Even though they are no persons in the absolute – there are some that are just naturally talented in a certain area and those who are very bright and some stupid body minds out there etc. How do you explain that ? I still have issues getting upset with myself for not thinking like I would want to . Should I ? If I am not the doer or thinker than I am relieved of all the responsibility for the doing and the thinking. If I am in a store and the thought comes to mind to steal that candy and I do and get caught, I will end up in jail. According to the law I am the doer. I can’t just say things happen, life happens. It does. But it doesn’t get me off the hook.

It has been said that psychological suffering can end. Why is there no carry over for the physical suffering ? a lot of physical suffering is rooted in unhealthy thoughts and emotions. So wouldn’t it follow that once we cease to identify with the body mind, being who we are shouldn’t that affect our physical well being if we know who and what we really are and live from that ?

Timothy Freke is convinced that there is no historical Jesus from the research he has done. Others including myself look at the documents and see that there is a real Jesus who existed. Jesus healed those who were mentally and physically sick.
The God within Him was able to do this . Jesus took no credit for any of the good works.
This makes sense because God is within. If there is a God who can act then there can be acts of God. So what are some insights from you all concerning Jesus? If there wasn’t a Jesus than it is pointless to quote from Him and to even mention His name but most all religions at least acknowledge Him. if there is no Jesus than Christianity and most religions collapse. Just like if there was no Buddha or it was shown that Mohammad, Joseph Smith, never existed than those religions would be based on a lie.

Can one here explain truth to me ? It has been said that concepts , ideas, thoughts, and beliefs are neither true nor false. 2+2= 4 is a true statement. Christianity is a religion is a true statement or fact. So if the thought arises that 2+ 2 = 4 then isn’t that a true thought ? There is no duality in non duality is a true statement ? So please explain.
I know that when a thought arises I may put my interpretation to that thought and that makes it true or false but what about thoughts that are factual. The thought that I am having a thought is true isn’t it ? Some teachers have put it in a way that all concepts, beliefs, and ideas etc are bullshit. Who then wants bullshit ? If that is true then one who is seeking and looking into non duality is being told it is all bullshit would he/she go to a non duality website ? So please be patient and shine some light on my questions. Thanks.

Look forward to the new program.

Allow the seeing to relax from focusing on ‘things’, let it be expansive, spacious.
Gently bring the attention back into the space behind the eyes.
See that this space is clear and empty.
There is nothing with any substance in this clear space of seeing.
The true nature of the mind is clear and empty.

If you were to be some-thing that was or is seeing, then surely a sense of it would be obvious ‘here’.

If the ‘I’ thought arises, pause it. (neti-neti)

Get a good taste of this openness.

I will say no more at this point about it. Apart from the fact that endless conceptualizing about this will only get in the way. Let the mind be empty.

This has nothing to do with the individual.

You can not argue about the truth of this (well, you can, because arguing certainly happens). I guess what I mean is that you cannot adopt this as a belief system. What use would that be, replacing an old belief system with non-duality? May as well believe in Jesus Christ or Scientology or any other thing. It’s all going to be belief.

What non-duality is saying is that what you are is not all this conceptual translation of what reality is. The reality of what you are is that unchanging aspect (‘you’ notice this in the silence of mind). Now, can you believe that or are you going to use the mind to see what it is that is being pointed to? Who can argue the truth or falseness of this without first hand examination. Examine it for ‘yourself’ and see if in fact there is any you or me or separation in this that is being pointed to. And then see if this is what you are. No point in adopting what others are telling you. No point in saying ‘Yeah, that sounds reasonable’. No. Only thing to do is look and see.

Then, you can answer for yourself if it makes any difference to your life.

James Brown was a salable ‘product’ in the appearance. Not sure anyone ever expected him to be a wise one. Chuck Berry was cool too. So what?
All answers are dualistic. WHO is asking the question? – that is the point. Who wants to know what?
Peace and love Bro – and don’t forget about the soul.

Does his answer strike you as dualistic jive, brutha?

The visits to my own website have spiked in recent days for some ‘reason’.
I am not sure why and it is only a passing interest. If this was a business venture, then I would need to capitalize on this surge of interest.
The fact is there is nothing to sell.
What you seek you already ARE. In the appearance, these things were pointed out to me by Bob Adamson. The lineage is an appearance – the Essence is One.
The only thing I get out if this unceasing sharing is a warm sensation when I see that someone ‘gets it’.
There have been many who have conveyed to me that the recognition has happened. No record is kept of these ‘events’ and I have not set myself up as a guru – because something ‘tells me’ that it is a false path to tread, rife with illusion and self-importance that few have ever risen above. The evidence is plain as daylight. There are other ways to get the message out there and it is happening.
Ultimately even that as a concept is erroneous, because there is no ‘out there’ and there is no one that ever gets it.
The disappearance of internal conflict appears to be something one wishes to have. Cease from trying to get rid of something and BE what you are.
As a fact: Everyone is already THAT.
There is nothing to alter or change in reality.
All the changes that appear to occur in the appearance, amount to NO THING.

As the one and only Don Cornelius would say: “We wish you love, peace and soul!”

Please, feel free to add all the enclosing quotations and “appearances” needed to make these questions decipherable.

PS Gilbert, you have a wider audience here than just those ‘blasted satsang loving devotees’. Something tells me that Friar Tuck and I have never grinned and held hands together at an Eli Jaxon-Hole event.

There is a current ‘scene’ appearing right now. I would hasten a guess that it looks like a computer screen. Through the sense of sight, the appearance of this computer screen is seen. This is the ‘scene’ that is happening, apparently. (there are many other things happening, sounds, smells, but lets keep it simple right now).

This ‘scene’ is what THAT looks like, right now.

This ‘scene’ is always changing. (even a different sentence is being read now)

THAT (no-thing) cannot change.

The ‘moment’ THAT changes (vibrates) it appears as This.

The ‘moment’ THAT changes, we call it something else. It automatically is something else: This.

It never is something else however.

Ultimately, it is seen that:

THAT is what the This is.

This is none other than THAT.

This = THAT (in changing-mode)

This = THAT dancing

It is always and ever THAT

In other words “I am not THIS particular momentary pattern of the appearance – ‘this’ has already appeared and disappeared before you know it.
Therefore “I am THAT” the unchanging Essence, timeless, birth-less and death-less.
‘This’ is included in THAT because THAT is ALL inclusive.
‘This’ suggests exclusion.

Some will point the proverbial finger and say “semantics”. It is not semantics.
If you can grasp what this detail above means, then there will be nothing more to realize.

And This is all there is.

And what This is, is whatever is happening.

And what is happening is whatever is happening.

What is happening is made out of what is happening.

There is nothing outside of This.

There is no other substance than This.

This is made of This.

And This is no-thing……. happening.

This takes the shape of ‘things’.

It forms and patterns.

This is what This sounds like.

This is what This looks like.

This is what This smells like.

This is what This feels like.

This is what This tastes like.

This is what This emotes like.

This is what This thinks like.

It is all This.

And That.

This is ever-flowing, in a state of emergency, perpetually emerging and out-pouring.

All of these appearances are delivered.

But there is nobody there to take delivery of it.

There is no need.

The very deliverance is enough.

No need to convert the deliverance further into a state of receiving.

In fact, this is impossible.

It is delivered for no one.

Can it be then said that there is even any such thing as delivery?

For, if there is no receiver, there – in essence – can be no delivery.

The very moment of delivery, of arising, gives rise to its falling, its dissipation.

That moment is timeless.

In it, there is no time, no delivery, no receiving, for it all adds up to zero.

It is no-thing.

But still, the miracle……

The current of the river still brings voices on the water.

As Bob says, when we focus on the mind, it is like a magnifying glass focusing the sun’s rays so much that they burn. That is where the energy is going, but you are not this entity, you are not this mind. All the senses are wide awake. You do not have to think you are thinking to be the seeing of this thinking, the thinking etc. You do not have to stay with this presence, you are always and ever this presence. The story of a Jacob is illusionary. The only continuity of this Jacob is the continuity in the story, all thought.

So, if you are already that, then what becoming could there be in it. If you have already seen that there is no seer in the silence of mind, then who is this Jacob who is engaging in thought? What reality is there in the thoughts? See that there is no accumulation of these thoughts anywhere. They appear and are gone. You don’t ever know what your next thought is going to be. Relax, let the mind do what it does, stay centered in this seeing (already you are centred in that). Stay with what is always and ever there, don’t run away with the thoughts, they aren’t real, they are transitory, not what you always and ever are.

In some native tribes of America, children were not forced to ‘become’ a hunter or a bow maker or whatever. Whichever child was naturally drawn to watch the arrow maker or the bow maker at work would be allowed to observe. If the interest continued, the child would naturally become an Arrow maker, a Bow maker or whatever the case may be.
The art or craft was learned by silent observation and trial and error.
A keen interest, naturally present with an open mind makes all the difference.
In my youth, maybe 6 years old, I used to sit on the floor and watch my grandmother rocking in a rocking chair. She would crochet extremely intricate table cloths in fine white cotton and a small hooked wooden needle. The cloths were around three feet square usually. The details of the pattern were truly exquisite. It would take months to finish one cloth. Then she would give it away to someone and start another one, a different pattern. I can’t remember any time when she consulted a book or design plan. I have one of these cloths, so, my memory is not playing tricks on me. I did not become a cloth maker but there was something that was learned from such observing.
There is no one that achieves anything and each moment is fresh. Each action requires some attention and it is naturally provided – but not by any ‘me’.
As the Buddha is reported to have said: “Events happen – deeds are done – there is no individual doer thereof”.
Squeaky clean spiritual heroes are unbelievable. The paradox of being caught between being and personality is an ‘uncomfortable place to be’. The paradox must be resolved by your own self – and yet there isn’t one. Being told there isn’t one is one thing – SEEING it as reality is the end of internal conflict over identity.
The end of that conflict appears to be ‘individual’ – yet the resonance in being (is universal) and can spill over and through ‘others’ dissolving the paradox.
The resistance to such an ‘event’ is called ‘ME’. There is no separation – this must be discovered for yourself – no one can do it for you.

Tom, if you see that thoughts can never describe reality then you won’t get tangled up in any of the stories that come up.

- Winston Churchill

Yes granted, you are correct. But does this knowledge help the mocker? You (you proper) won’t be better off once this is seen because your true nature never appeared to be improved or to be detracted from.

The stories can go on forever for the life of the organism and it won’t be any better or worse for you. All of the teachings are and always have been just an appearance and tons of concepts appearing in what you are. The disappearance of the story has a way of occurring though as it is seen that the idea was only ever a phantom hiding away in thoughts.

Then (please excuse the subtle concept here of becoming in time), you can laugh out loud about the ridiculousness of it all.

I guess this is the mind’s biased version of “Don’t let your right hand know, what your left hand is doing”

So it seems the expert advaitic pointillist has secured himself through an ingenious roccade of ‘punishing and absolving (himself)’, pointing (to himself and his achievement) and negating (there’s no-one here’); So basically, anything goes; It’s the Ultimate ticket out of jail !!! Anything and everything can be justified through this masterful but deceitful Self-Absolution which is Self-aggrandizement.
Editor: Not point in being bitter about it. It all serves to expose ‘ego’. If you can’t recognize it in yourself, then have a look at mine. It doesn’t exist, just like yours.

I have read your words several times to enjoy the clarity…

“I am THAT by which I know I AM” (Sri Nis. quote)

It doesn’t seem possible that there is a spectrum of being beyond baseline. Once being is translated onto a scale of experience, has it not ‘changed phase’ into some sort of becoming?

‘My problem’ seems to manifest with belief in a story that ‘my mind’ won’t let baseline being be, without ceaselessly trying to find some meaning in ‘it’. But there doesn’t seem to be any! This seems hard for mind to tolerate, yet easy for being. Being has no meaning. But ‘it’ is not meaningless either!

Baseline being seems like an ancient way of living (to the mind), before thought layered over the subtlety of being with what it thinks being means. Truth is, I don’t know what being is, never did, never will. Yet I am.

When the mind comes to understand its limitation in this regard, this same old world suddenly and unexpectedly looks different.

Advaita isn’t about ME finding the answer. Advaita means not-two – there is no separation – NO separate ME who CAN find the answer.

Seeking, then, is absolutely overlooking THIS – it is the absolute assumption that THIS is NOT IT. It is the assumption, the HOPE, that something will as come, something will happen – that YOU will BECOME something different. Ignoring the FACT that the individual is already false, we march on as the individual seeking the end of the individual.

If THIS is IT, then what-you-are MUST ALREADY BE what you are seeking. What-you-are MUST – ALREADY – be THAT.

So instead of trying to figure out advaita pointers, so that something will “click” in the future, find out what-you are RIGHT NOW.

This shines a spotlight on the assumptions or translations right this very instant. THAT is what needs to be investigated.

The assumption is that YOU are separate, and then YOU are seeking. This is ALREADY false. So there is no use in going any further.

YOU are not a separate individual, who is then seeking, analyzing pointers, reading blogs or websites or books, who may then find enlightenment. The very root of this process is false – so all that comes after is equally false.

THIS, right here and now, is Advaita – without moving an inch, before the next thought, before the next attempt at figuring it out. THIS is already Nondual Reality. Just THIS, right here and now.

So where can we go? What can we do? What can possibly happen to make THIS any different? No matter what THIS might be, it’s never anything but THIS.

Therefore the YOU you’ve taken yourself to be, the separate individual, the ME, is only an assumption, a translation. THIS is taken to be ME-SEEING. And then off into the abstractions and stories we go…

The ME is an appearance, an idea, a thought/story, an identification with objects – and that appearance is THIS also. So there isn’t anything WRONG with the idea of ME, only it’s just an idea – it’s not absolute reality. SEE that it’s only an idea.

Absolute reality is just THIS – and reality isn’t broken up into parts and pieces, into a ME-SEEING-WORLD. That is just a template or translation, which, when believed in, creates the idea that YOU must seek the answer.

You ARE the answer already.

ME-SEEING-WORLD is a false template through which the search is undertaken. There is only pure SEEING/BEING. Your true nature is already fully present and shining right here and now, without ever reading any “pointers”.

BEING IS.
There is NO becoming.

We at the UGC have thrust a ‘chop stick’ into the honey jar so that bullshit soaked bees can crawl out of that jar of frustration and endless seeking.
Take it or leave it, it is up to you.
It doesn’t really matter because you were never truly bound in the first instance.

But it’s seemingly just the awareness that registers all activity. So there’s apparently no hope for goodies — AND it can’t be grasped.

There’s enlightenment in this? Not like I’d know enlightenment if it jumped up and bit me on the sac…

Thanks for the site though.

OK, We must all be that you say. But how to circumvent the carnal mind?

Seeing is happening. Knowing is happening. This cannot be negated.
If you truly see that you cannot be that thought called ‘me’ which cannot see or know….then you must be the seeing, the knowing which is formless.

You are THAT – one without a second.

It is similar to when people first started to conduct quantum physics experiments. The scientists found out that the person viewing (or conducting) the experiment is as much an integral part of the experiment itself and has to be considered into the ‘equation’. How can an experiment be observed without any observer? And, they are NOT TWO. Its when science hits a brick wall.

not 2

The very substance of WHAT IS, is WHAT IS.

Not two.

The more concepts that get thrown around, the more confusing it all becomes. You’ve got lots of “teachers” who put out lots of conceptual models for the imaginary seeker and it leads to more belief that there are separate “things”. I guess, as you’ve said before, thought/words can NEVER DESCRIBE ANYTHING REAL, because every word mentions a part and what is is not apart but wholeness. In this, concepts are only useful to remove other ideas (Like Ramana said “use a thorn to remove a thorn and then throw both away.”)

It’s like there’s a proverbial huge red button that you keep slamming over and over and over again. Man, I’m a dullard. Not sure if I need to up the meds or just get off them altogether.

Anyway, all this nonsense needs to be exposed. Each case is unique in the appearnce, correct?

There are certain things that are never spoken about because the mind of habit will fortify itself with that information and thus ‘create’ an ‘effective’ barrier. I see this so often with ‘seekers’ – they learn the language and it is almost painful to hear ‘pointers’ being thrown around like the latest slogan for a washing up detergent. Life goes on in exactly the same way. At first there is a concern for others but it wears off. Intelligence is ‘creating’ the whole manifestation just as it is. It is actually perfect just as it is. Stirring up the crap and swishing it to one side can give clear insights into one’s own nature. Those who get caught in the crap have no choice. They find what they need when it is necessary.
Most only find it in the last minutes of life. It doesn’t have to be that way.

I think talking about some things gives creedence to the idea that they exist. “Body” and “mind” are good examples that seem to point to “things” apart from being. Of course, as functional words there is no problem (“I hurt my body”) but when it is believed that they refer to separate objects it seems to cause some confusion – at least that was my experience.

This is essential knowing.

There is nothing beyond this knowing.

If there is?

It will be within the knowing.

The knowing has no parameters

Empirical knowledge is subject to change and modification.

The context that it appears in is not subject to change or modification.

And if I may elaborate, it is not subject to time or space ( which only appear to exist in the knowing!)

The knowing is neither subject or object.

in other words this is all there is:)

All is well, love suki

It is all appearance…it is Maya…that which is not!

The immediacy has no duration…how can anything exist?

“Love says “I am everything”. Wisdom says “I am nothing”. Between the two, my life flows. Since at any point of time and space I can be both the subject and the object of experience, I express it by saying that I am both, and neither, and beyond both.”

When one ‘feels’ love .. it is not fabricated, fictional or imagined … it is the true expression of your true nature. This ‘feeling’ cannot be expressed in words…just as your true nature cannot be expressed in words. Love also expresses itself through the patterns that are expressed.

… sometmes, it appears that this ‘love’ you speak of comes across as ‘nothingness’ which is full of nothing. If this is love, then I want no part of it.. I’ll stay in my little dream.

Back to you, Gilbert.

It IS all Love……..it is not ‘about’ love.
Who is it about love for? Who can feel it?
When you stop philosophizing about things that you know nothing about, love may reveal itself and speechlessness may happen.
The love that ‘people’ talk about is dualistic ‘love-hate’ – relationship.
‘People’ FALL in love. ‘People’ talk a lot of nonsense about love. The word is used far too often without any true understanding. If you ‘think’ you know what love is, think again.
Love is light, light is energy – self expressing, prior to the patterns that are expressed.
The shadow of a tree is not the tree.
The image of your self is NOT what you truly are.
Image and imagination (image-ination) is light upon the ‘screen’. The characters in the movie on the screen have no volition to choose what will happen in the movie.
The peace beyond understanding does not belong to the engagement with the story of me.
Using the word ‘love’ is most often not useful because it ‘brings’ misunderstanding.
If you truly knew what love is, you would rarely use the word. If there is offense taken over these few words about love, then the love you speak of is fictional, imagination.
There is no argument in…. LOVE.

Is it possible that this ‘I’ plays all the roles in separation ?
Don’t make the nothingness into nothing. who you are is ALL of it.

… it’s all about LOVE… can you feel it ?

Has anything ever appeared outside of this immediacy?

The immediacy has no duration…yet contains these words being typed…
The immedicay has no form…yet contains the laptop…
The immediacy has no qualities at all… yet everything appears in IT.
There is no separation between the appearance and the immediacy.

The words are conceptual…the immediacy is undeniable.

There is no separation between the immediacy and the appearing polarities.

What can oppose Oneness?

One thing I do know, however, damn good podcast!! Areti’s interview style and Gilbert’s mixing are out of sight, really coming together. A breath of fresh air is always nice.

I look forward to the upcoming animated feature starring the UGC heavyweights. Who will prevail, the relative or universal or even the absolute, will it be the gradual or the sudden? Will Gilbert be dethroned as the all time pointillist? Will the dark forces of duality elude the gargoyle sentries of nonduality, pass through the gateless gate and infiltrate the monolithic bastion of oneness…?

… perhaps this is why the answer is not in the mind. The mind deals with ‘either/or’ but it gets messed up and lost when it deals with ‘both/and’.

How does Consciousness recognize itself ?……. is it not through the patterns that appear ? even though the patterns arise from Consciousness. This is where ‘aha! moments’ are born.

“You are not the body or the mind” , the body and mind are both appearances but is it not through the appearances that consciousness recognizes itself?

Paradox?, Confusion? yes indeed.
The answer is not in the mind but you use the mind to find this out. Yes, another paradox and on and on it goes..
The belly of the mind is never full. It will feed itself endless trying to get to what is already HERE. Can you see that ?

A thought pops up: Sometimes when a cart gets repeatedly stuck in the mud you just have to leave it there. It is so worn and tattered, it just isn’t worth the effort.
Let the horse go free, cut your loses and move on.
The fear of seeing that I am not the ‘me’ is just too much to bare for some – Let it be.

This is all conceptual but undeniable! It’s fat, it’s real, it’s right here and now!

Tim’s rave is exactly this. The individual and the oneness are not separate. Expressing and getting excited about polarities is great.

The polarities are the immediacy.

very nicely put mr tuck – keep asking yourself just this ……

each time some opinion or other comes up concerning this or that.

Goes for all of us

just seems to leave out a crucial element…being that he is an “I” looking into “oneness” and still saying that the separation is real. obviously separation ‘seems’ real if there is a you and the this ‘other’ called ‘one’.

Mr. Tuck, Belief in “something” called ‘oneness’ just might be more ludicrous than living in some dream of separation, it’s just a supplement for saying ‘YOU’ found God….you know….spiritual egos can be the biggest/baddest…’thinking’ themselves to be the finders…”all that seeking had better pay off!!” kinda thing…

how does a nonexistent person choose to develop the idea of itself, and then make the choice to stop doing this? seriously. do you actually believe this convoluted crap?

nathan and ryba — not trying to be a prick here, but maybe tim’s ideas don’t sit well with you, because they conflict with your beliefs? sounds like you might actually believe that something called “oneness” exists, rather than seeing it as a concept which (like all concepts) has its opposite.